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Claudia Grant
Gallente
Quantum Synergies
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.08.12 11:23:00 -
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I am litterally at a loss for words.
First you nerf mineral compression. But doing so late after super capitals has entered the game it creates a massive disparity between newcomers and the big blocks in eve. As usual.
Now were litterally in deep ****.
The warning is so short that we cant recuperate losses neither.
Spending massive amounts of ISK on the Jump Portal Generator Bpo¦s for the "right" to compress minerals are also just a "too bad" situation. So albeit compression ratio is indeed phenomenal it is also extremely time consuming and expensive. Jump portal generators costing almost half a billion isk pr bpo, research taking several weeks pr run and not to mention the build time which is staggering high.
All that account for nothing. nerf nerf nerf 
Which leaves small and mid-sized corporations in economic ruin.
One thing is changing something because it has an adverse effect but make sure you give investors an oppertunity to recouperate instead of just sinking their efforts.
Its not like it falls under "you should know better" enither. Eve-search will reveal massed posts where this compression ratio is talked about in the open from long time ago. No *snip* or warning posted. In fact it just looked like mineral compression as usual with the addendum that if you wanted excellent mineral compression you pay the isk.
Massively disspointed.
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Claudia Grant
Gallente
Quantum Synergies
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.08.12 13:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Montaire
Originally by: Lazaroth
well this pretty much kills the hope for the little guys who had any hope or dreams about building the big stuff. I'm sorely disappointed there has to be a better way then this..
Laz
No, it doesnt.
In about 30 mins me and 5 other Logistics people worked completely around this issue in a cost effective way that was only about 10% more time consuming than our current method.
What this does is increase the probability that any mineral you use will be MINED instead of originating in reprocessed loot. Which overall isnt necessarily a bad thing.
Anyone who take a few mins to reason on this issue is goingto realise its NOT a bad thing.
Yes it does.
People with titans and established Jump bridges = np.
Anyone else = fubared. It makes the blance even more screwed up as the smaller organizations will completely loose any competitive situation to be in, not to mention how Drone Regions people must feel now. again I might add.
And to say "we have found this and that dont mean squat. Proof or be quiet. If it was almost the same if would not be such a big issue in the first place. Claiming in obscurity that secret methods are an alternative doesnt help this debate.
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Claudia Grant
Gallente
Quantum Synergies
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.08.13 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Important Update
The item material reprocessing fix will be delayed until a future patch after kali 2.2. Many players have asked for more time to adapt to the changes and time to assess suitable alternatives being implemented as we talked about previously such as addressing the mining of veldspar in null sec for example with additional bonuses to the skiff and mackinaw amongst other suggestions made elsewhere in this thread by many players.
A much better roadmap and sequence of changes is needed and preferable with time to implement and see how the Rorqual and other alternatives mature before we when fixing this take away something many have come to rely on.
We realise many supercap industries have heavy reliance on this method to supply their minerals from the marketplace and that whilst the ability to move two freighters worth of minerals in a frigate is broke and something we want to fix, it can be done in a better way.
In summary, nothing with these modules is happening till at least kali 3.0 now, where nearer the time we will address other mechanics such as low/null sec low-ore mining and others in parallel to provide good and better alternatives.
Most importantly, thanks to those of you who provided good constructive feedback, it is always awesome that you care as much as we do about the game and help us find the right direction for it together.
Respect and much <3
Thank you for realizing the massive impact this would have had on the economic balance and giving us time to adapt.
Im impressed and breathe a sigh of relief.
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